This makes it clear that Saruman has no allegiance to anyone but himself. Some believe that at this point in the story, Saruman planned to make amends with Gandalf but when he discovered that the wizard had escaped, he felt forced to stick to his original decision.
Now feeling stuck in the alliance to himself, Saruman abandons any attempt to fake alliances and puts full effort into searching for the ring. He sends several spies and armies of Orcs to do his work.
Eventually the forces of the ring bearers and the Ents come together in an attempt to take down Isengard. Being captured, Saruman makes a last attempt to stop Gandalf and the party of the ring but he is unsuccessful and is captured. Gandalf offers Saruman a final chance at redemption but Saruman chooses his pride, declining the opportunity.
In response, Gandalf the White breaks his staff, taking his power away. The deep history of Sauron and Saruman. Has anyone ever though about the history between Sauron and Saruman before the events at the end of the Third Age. As Mairon and Curumo respectively, they were both affiliated with the Valar Aule.
As such, surely they must have known each other in their youth? Might this have played a part in the Valar's decision to send Curumo later Saruman to Middle Earth to lead the free people's against Sauron? Might it also have played a part in their later alliance? Olorgando not from 'Straya. But, just as an example, had he already joined Melkor before the destruction of the first primeval lights of Middle-earth , Illuin and Ormal?
Was he perhaps one of Melkor's "secret friends and spies among the Maiar" mentioned in Chapter 1 of the Quenta Silmarillion? Or was he "impressed" at Melkor's being able to do so much damage in his assault on the Valar, which basically ended with the latter's rather ignominious departure to the uttermost west of Arda, to Valinor in Aman , that he switched his allegiance?
What part any of the later Third Age from ca. That Sauron was his lieutenant in command of his secondary fortress of Angband in the north-west of Middle-earth as a guard against Valinor, is and that it was not as thoroughly destroyed as was Melkor's primary stronghold of Utumno.
After the rebellion of the Noldor , for the rest of the First Age the about years of the Sun Aman was closed off from Middle-earth. Nor was it opened much and forbidden for Men in the Second Age. So there appears to have been little occasion of any "the history between Sauron and Saruman before the events at the end of the Third Age. As to Saruman's "alliance" with Sauron, I wouldn't see this as being entirely, perhaps even primarily, voluntary. My impression is that Saruman was trapped by Sauron via their respective Palantiri.
At least at the time that Saruman spoke to Gandalf before imprisoning the latter at the top of Orthanc , Saruman seems still to have had a hope of getting hold of the One Ring himself. And he would have been, even more than Gandalf, one of the few perhaps only these two could have pulled it off who could have used the One Ring to overthrow Sauron - in the process becoming a clone of his, as JRRT stressed.
Last edited: Mar 28, Sir Eowyn Member. That reminds me Aldarion Member. Sir Eowyn said:. Click to expand All very good points Gandalf declines this offer, not wanting to be tied down in the position, and hands it off to Saruman. Saruman's pride is still damaged by the fact that they too like Gandalf more. Fellow Quora member Nadeem Shaikh further explains that Saruman's growing pride and jealousy led him to "give up on his mission.
He then unwisely used the seeing-stone Palantir to come into contact with Sauron in an attempt to become a double agent. However, once Gandalf was with him in Isengard with news of the Ring being found, Saruman finally revealed himself as Sauron's ally.
Aside from one brief hesitation reverting back to "Saramund" in a subsequent outline Tolkien appears to have definitively decided on "Saruman" from that point forward. The only discussion of similarity of the names that I'm aware of is in reference to his partial renaming in Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings; for example FlyingMoose. They decided to rename "Saruman" to "Aruman" for the movie; evidently they were concerned that moviegoers would confuse the name "Saruman" with "Sauron" From early on in the production, it was decided that "Saruman" and "Sauron" sounded too much alike, and might confuse viewers.
On concept art, Saruman is called "Ruman", but prior to recording, this was changed to "Aruman". However, during recording, it was again changed, to "Saruman". Because of this late change, several instances of "Aruman" remain in the finished film. Regarding the names themselves, they are presented as being in two different languages in Tolkien's world. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top.
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